Ottawa Fiero Club Forum

http://www.gtechprostore.com/

I’m trying to find out if this club is willing to split on a club “G-Teck” G meter.  If we can get about 15 people then it’ll cost about $30 each with shipping and exchange.  That’s not bad for a good tuning tool.

I think there are enough people in this club that could use a tune-up.

Alternately I could just by it and rent it out for $15 each use.  It doesn’t make much difference to me.

I’m trying to gauge the interest in this venture.  If people could respond wheather they are interested or not, and for which option.  If I get enough responses it’s a done deal.  But make sure you post your name if you want option #1 because I'll be coming after you for money.

There will be some restrictions depending on the distance from Ottawa (Dan is exempt from restrictions).

Please vote only once


Aaron

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i guess I don't know enough about these things; I looked at the website and it doesn't help too much either.  Is it only for accel'n?  I assume it will measure stopping somehow too?  Maybe you could clarify what it really can do; the write up is kinda short.
Which one are you talking about?  The Pro Comp or the Pro?

And for me, using something like that is a ways off anyway, but I thought I would see what it is about.

And
the big CRITICAL question........  if everyone goes in on it,............
who gets the STICKERS!?!?!!? ;D

It will measure acceleration, in whatever increments you want, first 60 feet, ¼ mile 1/8 mile, 0-100 km/h.

Deceleration is whatever increments you want.

Side acceleration, or lateral G’s.

It can also estimate hp given vehicle weight, and do a few extra things.

This one also has a screen so that you can view the data in real time.  That parts just cool.

Aaron

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It will be off but not by much.  The acceleration and deceleration it will be off by only a minute amount.  Lets say less than one percent.  The hp may be of by something like 5%.  But what you will be able to tell is the difference between one run and another.  To explain; there may be some characteristics about your car that makes the meter off by a certain percent, but every run it will be off by the same percent in the same direction.  Therefore making one run to another very comparable.

Aaron

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no, I simply meant that I won't be able to use anything like that for a while  yet........
 ::) :(
so i am not a likely user. 

I'm not looking for people that are willing to use it right away, just people that are willing to use it period.

Aaron

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Aaron I didn't vote, I'll pay my share whatever it is, if it's only you and me, I'll pay half.

I have the Gtech Pro comp ;)

I would like to see it in action before I cast my vote.

I'm with Tibs, but I voted.   :P

Ive got one of the older ones.. it doesnt have the nice graphic display, but if anyone wants to use it, I could let Dan bring it up to a meeting or something and you could all give the older one a shot, just give me a shout.. I used it once.

later; Rob

arron we can try it on you car at the next meet /  cruise and it always in the car, you got my cell #

Wouln't mind trying it in my car for comparative purposes  ;)

Just make sure you keep it in the car, where those pesky headlight doors can't hit it.   ;D

Nice!  But the problem with me is that I have so little time to do that sort of thing.  But I will take you up on this as soon as I can.

Aaron

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As a further note, after one person has rented the meter two times it's free to borrow.

Aaron

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I need more people to vote.

There, I voted.

voted

Aaron

I can get these G-Techs too. might be able to give you a better price, and I can get them quicker than if you ordered it from the U.S.
 ;)

I hadn’t actually sorted out where I was going to get this, but I was going to check with you on price first.  No worries there.


On another note, I see that over 100 views on this topic bun no one has decided that they don’t want to pay out for this item.  I find it hard to believe that everyone viewing this topic that’s also a member is willing to invest in it.

I need everyone to vote so that I know when I have a complete vote of active members.  This way I know when to make a decision.


Aaron

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^^^

As it looks now I'm going to go ahead with this.

Since there seems to be more interest as a rental (and voting is still open), I'm going to offer this as a $15 for two days rental. After a few rentals it will be free to borrow for two day periods.

If anyone has a better idea feel free to incert it below.

Aaron


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Aaron check you PM

This should be in in about three weeks or so.

I have upgradded my choice to the G-Tech pro RR.  It has interface capabilities with your laptop.

Aaron

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well Aaron
it might be that a few people are not really sure about this (I still am not) and would rather err on the side of safety/economy/whatever, in case it is not something they can use or understand etc.  Do they need a laptop or anything else to make best use of it?
Does it require any special adapter of any sort on the car, for example?

So the category for them would be "I MIGHT use it .....one time?"

And that is my category, because I am not up on exactly what it will do for me; I don't plan on going to the strip so 1/8 or 1/4 mile times are not something I would count on; but lateral accel'n is interesting and so I am interested in that.
So I DID vote as using it but it will prob be once or maybe twice; have to see.  If I do want to rent it I would be happy to pay $15 each time; that is more than fair of you.  Whatever that is worth.......
But I will have to read up on it to see what it might do for me.
FYI

diddo
my thoughts exactly

It’s really simple to use;
- Plug into cigarette lighter
- Stick to front windshield
- Press button to calibrate (while parked on flat ground), follow on screen instructions
- Scroll through menu to compare results

Even if you are completely incapable of storing results by hitting a button, then you can record your results manually.

All the laptop stuff is only for those that feel it would be helpful.  Anyone that can use a computer and has a laptop will have no problem with this.


Aaron

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hi Aaron
I like to think of myself as a bit past the stone chisel stage but I am not a techie, either.  Is the laptop simply for storing your entries and results from different tests/runs etc or is it to 'alter' the program to compensate for vehicle specifics or both?
(sort of like the timing and engine management programs out there)

Guys who get into chip burning and diagnostics are into ALDL cables (I don't have) and so on.  That is what I was getting at.  So this will just lead you thru and I expect that you select a menu for (ie) handling (lateral G's) or braking etc.  Sounds good and interesting.
I have taken/am taking some steps to have my car on the street next summer (it is going into a shop in the next couple of wks for a particular piece of work) so I MIGHT be at a stage to use it.

Will be interesting to see more info when you get it.
 ;D
gp

I think you’re getting the wrong idea here.  The laptop is not required for any reason.  The g-meter works as a regular g-meter but has the option of interface for those that want to record data for extended periods of time (over two hours). Or for those that want to share the data though the PASS software.  Or use a more comprehensive graph to view the data.  This is a function that I figure only 3 or so people will use.  However the ability to store your data on your PC (doesn’t need to be a laptop), and compare it to data recorded 2 years previously may be something 90% of people using the unit do.

Lets say for example that you want to test a Solo 2 run and compare it to another run.  First you start the G-Tech then do the run, and stop the G-Tech.  Save the results and repeat for multiple runs.  Then call up all the data, and the g-meter will show you nice comparative graphs that indicate that you did well in corner 2 and 3 (for example) in run 1 but better in corner 5 and straight away 3 in run 4.  You can then put them together from your memory of how you went into and out of those corners.


Aaron

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Bad news I’m afraid.  The unit I ordered was apparently priced wrong by the manufacturer.  G-Tech also isn’t going to honour there miss-quoted prices.  So this whole thing is on hold until I can get a proper price on this unit.

Needless to say I’m not impressed with this whole thing since I have already paid $300 so far and have nothing to show for it.

Aaron

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An update for those that are interested.

An acceptable price has been reached, but for the SS model not the RR model, it’s basically the same model, without the PASS software (so no laptop options).  But the catch is that I have to wait for them to be in stock or I have to pay $50 more.  That’s happening sometime in February.  So this thing is on it’s way it’s just taking way too long.

Aaron

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For those that are interested (apparently 8 people) I have this item now.

I don’t even want to get into all the crap I went though trying to get one, so I’m not going to talk about why it took almost a year to get.

Aaron

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Tested G-meter in a friends car yesterday.  He ran ¼ mile in 15.78 (at 146 kph) in one of those new Mazda 3’s.
128 net HP

Just dying to try mine out when the 'puter comes back from Texas.

As long as it's not this weekend.  The g-tech is booked for Sat. and Sun.

Good to see someone else here posting on this topic.

TIP:  For best readings it's good to have an accurate weight for your car and always test it with about the same amount of fuel in it.

Hey I'm just quiet, not uninterested.  :)

I might book some time with it later this summer, though mostly to get some lateral readings.  I don't see the point in measuring anything else until the 2.8's successor is in there.

I hope that I don't have to wonder if you got a weight for your car yet >:D >:D

Designed a cool little scale (one wheel at a time), now all I have to do is build it.

This is the little do-dad.

Found the following on the MCO board and thought you might be interested:


http://www.mco.org/cms/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3944