Ottawa Fiero Club Forum

I am going to start over as far as what car I am using. I am going to use my 86 GT panels on an 88 coupe. So I started to look into a brake upgrade for 88 Fieros and I like the 12" Corvette rotor upgrade. But the only deal out there I have found is West Coast Fieros 12" upgrade package. I went and talked to a local place about doing this upgrade today, making the needed brackets and a needed inner ring along with redrilling the Corvette rotors to match up to the Fieros bolt pattern. Plus a few other things that I will talk about soon if they can get it done at a good price.

So, if I can get extras made up 12" rotor package is there anyone here that would like to join in on having these done for there 88 Fiero?

I'm soon going to be looking into doing something like this.  I'm thinking of using the Corvette 4 piston callipers as well though.  Moving the front brakes to the rear and removing the proportioning valve to even out the braking.  I haven't taken any measurement though.

Alternately one could use the Corvette callipers in the rear as well and leave the proportioning valve in.  This would remove all the damn sliders. ;)


Aaron

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Over the weekend I sat down with the shop owner and we did workout alot of questions. He is going to be calling me soon. However we both are doing this on the side so we can keep down the cost so there is not going to be a big push. I am hoping we can have at least 12 done and I was thinking about buying another dozen and selling a few on Ebay and holding a few for other forum memebers wanting them or guys needing replacements.

Are you doing just the rotors?   Because I don’t think a 20% braking increase is going to be enough for me.  I’m looking more for 100% increase with no fade.  Although my way will require new rims to clear the callipers.

Aaron

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I am looking at doing the rotors, the support brackets, the rotors inner ring, and looking for the best brake pads. After the ride I took with Crazy Dave in his 88 I was sold on this!!!

I am interested in a brake upgrade for my 88. I have 17" available but have not decided which way to go. I have a list of the brake options available for the fiero's. Please feel free to add/modify so that the correct up to date information will be available.

Right now we are looking at 18 guys getting on board. Anybody else?

Hi,

GoFast: very good document !!! One question, did someone know if the Archies Big Brake Kit will fit on 15" rims ?

Thanks,

ERic

No! 16" min.

Aaron

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Okay so I'm flip flopping on this one.  I may be leaning towards doing a two piston upgrade now.  It's just going to be that much easier with the rims and everything else, and it will stop just as fast, the only drawback is that the sliders will cause some uneven ware but not anything that will be noticed.

So long story short I may be on board if I like your design.  I'm assuming at this point that it's going to be the same as current 84-87 upgrade that Bubba Joe does (lathough it sounds like you are doing only the rotor and not the calipers, I need the calipers as well).


Aaron

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Mine are close to West Coast Fiero's set up, its a bit different I am tring to build it a little stronger but without adding extra weight. I am also tring to have them the right size so a 15" wheel will fit but that isn't my main concern, sorry!
I road in CrazyDaves 88 GT that had WCF's brake upgrade and it was really impressive, never thought just a rotor size would have made such a difference, oh ya!! Pay extra for performance pad guys, I was truely made a believer the other day!

The long awaited price is now ready:
$195.00 for caliper support bracket and inner hub ring
$200.00 for redrilled 12" standard rotors with 5 X 100mm bolt pattern
$380.00 for complete package (standard rotors):
(#4 12" rotors with redrilled 5 X 100mm bolt pattern,#2 left and #2 right)
(#4 alum. inner hub rings that will support the rotor on the 88 Fiero hub)
(#4 caliper support brackets, #2 left sides and #2 right sides)
Or
$440.00 for complete package (cross drilled rotors):
(#4 12" rotors with redrilled 5 X 100mm bolt pattern,#2 left and #2 right)
(#4 alum. inner hub rings that will support the rotor on the 88 Fiero hub)
(#4 caliper support brackets, #2 left sides and #2 right sides)
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West Coast Fiero's prices
$305.00 for there front only set,"1/2 a set" (US stock replacement rotors)
$255.00 for there front only set,"1/2 a set" (Imported replacement rotors)
$595.00 for there complete upgrade set (US stock replacement rotors)
$495.00 for there complete upgrade set (Imported replacement rotors)
$216.60 for there mounting kit (support brackets and inner hub ring)
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EBAY COST:
$425.00 for a complete set (Standard rotors):
(#4 12" rotors with redrilled 5 X 100mm bolt pattern,#2 left and #2 right)
(#4 alum. inner hub rings that will support the rotor on the 88 Fiero hub)
(#4 caliper support brackets, #2 left sides and #2 right sides)
Or
$490.00 for a complete set (Cross-drilled rotors):
(#4 12" cross-drilled rotors with redrilled 5 X 100mm bolt pattern,#2 left and #2 right)
(#4 alum. inner hub rings that will support the rotor on the 88 Fiero hub)
(#4 caliper support brackets, #2 left sides and #2 right sides)
I am not going to be selling these on Ebay until all forum orders are filled and completed!
I am still getting things worked out with the several company that I am looking at to supply the rotors, so they should be up for sale soon.
I am going to have parts being made when I get some more orders in, they will be made and shipped within 3 to 4 weeks of the start date.
Anybody wanting to place an order, I will need half of the full payment up front, or you can make a full payment if you wish to do so. "The only reason I will need half down is I am buying all 100 rotors up front and paying for the shipping costs, and the # 3 set up costs (bracket set up, ring set up, rotor set up) are also needed up front.

As you can see above I am able to beat WCF's prices and we have made the brackets stronger with adding extra bolt threads and stronger steel. All parts are going to be cut very clean by laser and a sand-water cutter so te brackets will not be heated or worped!!!

And I am sorry to say I don't know yet if they will fit under a 15" wheel, I know they will not fit as they are, they may fit with some mods. and grinding to your caliper.

Again any questions feel free to post here or e-mail me thespeedshop@sbcglobal.net
Thanks again Bobby

Here is the first ruff draft and I have to say they came out nice!!!

Nice!!!

It's too bad this isn't what I'm looking for.

Aaron

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What are you wanting Aaron?

Aaron --- you have 15" tire too??

I have 15" now but I'll have to get 16” when I do my brakes.

What I'm going to do is get a set of C4 or C5 Corvette front callipers and rotors (E-Bay seems to have the best prices), and mount them in the front. Then move my front callipers to the rear, buy a Willwood adjustable proportioning valve and that should do it.  However if I don’t have enough in the rear I will go with your kit (GSXRBobby) in the rear.

In the end if it looks like I’m going to need an E-brake then I’ll install a separate calliper.

Aaron

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Trust me, I took a wild ride in Crazydaves 88 and he had a brake setup just like this one, he only had stock replacement pads besides the front were more of a high performance. The car had a V-8 and was fast, his braking is what sold me on making this kit. It was kick a$$!!!
The stock caliper with larger rotors are just fine. That was sounds like alot of extra work, not that I am tring to just sell you this but....anyway. Let me know how thinks are going with that!

I reallllly like my 15' so I will have to settle for a 11.25" system when the funds permit.

My brakes are good too.  They will pull all the negative G's that I want but on the track they start to fade after about a lap or so.  I need a major inprovement, but because of what I want to do with my brakes I will likely buy your package in order to get the rears so that I don't have to play with the proportioning valve too much other than adjusting the spring a bit.

Two questions.

1. are your prices in US dallars? (this is a Canadian forum)
2. con you post a pic of the drilled rotors so that I can see the pattern (some are better than others).

I did find a bunch of better prices on E-Bay for the cross-drilled and slotted rotors.  Are your rotors factory of aftermarket drilling?

I should add that I'm not a fan of drilled or slotted rotors due to wear, cracking, and the fact that they can't take as much abuse.


Aaron

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Aaron I hate to say I am having a problem right now with the cross drilled rotors, the first place I went to has pist me off, the second place sent me a pair to look over and they are junk so I sent them back. The last 3 places are out in California and it looks like shipping is going to kill me. I do have one more place local here in Indiana, just waiting on the final price. here is what theres look like:
 

The first bulk order of rotors were ordered earlier this week and should be here in 2 weeks, well depending on the Christmas rush. When they get here the machine shop is going to start making the brackets, rings and redrilling the rotors. I am hoping that shouldn't be more or at least much more than a week. So the first order should be ready to be shipped in about 3 weeks from now. The second bulk order of rotors will be ordered in 2 or 3 weeks from now, all the brackets and rings will all be made the first time so the second wave of orders will only have to wait for the rotors to be shipped and redrilled so they should be ready a week or 2 after the first order or should I just say 4 to 5 weeks from now.
Again, to be fair I am shipping them in the order I got the money from each person unless they do not have there second half. However, alot of the first orders I did get, they paid in full so they will get them in the first come first shipped order, again just to be fair.
No really new big news just passing along some info. to keep you guys updated.

I am still taking orders for the second bulk order of rotors.

At this point to just be safe, please start to e-mail me at 219customs@verizon.net
Bobby

Well shipped the first order out yesterday and I am going to go get the second order in a hour. Thanks for everyones support.

Here are a few pictures